You Believe? Have You Received?

It is not enough to merely confess belief in the message of Jesus. Demonic forces of darkness know the truth and believe it too. “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.” James 2:19 The demons believe in the oneness of God too. However, they have not entered into the experience of salvation. You must be born again. It is not two different experiences to be born again and to be baptized in the Spirit of God. It is the same experience and it comes “after that ye believed”. Ephesians 1:13. So you believe in the message of God’s grace that if you confess with your lips the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead.

“Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Acts 2:38

Start with faith in the Lord Jesus and then obey this scripture; repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then God will do the rest, it is a promise, believe it.

You might say you have believed the message for 20 years or since you were a child and you were baptized when you were a kid, but yet you know you don’t have the Holy Ghost. Go be baptized again understanding what you are doing. You are entering in the water in the name above all names for the remission of your sins by the blood and it is a promise that you will receive the Holy Ghost. It is an experience between you and God. Each time in the book of Acts those who were there and received the Holy Ghost knew that they received it. It is not just an emotion for those fail, it is something that anchors deep in your heart. It came with tongues, prophesying and also in other ways. “(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Ghost was given…” Acts 8:16-18 Here they received the Holy Spirit without any description of tongues or prophecy, but those standing by witnessed it. They could visibly see or hear that they received the Holy Ghost. Paul received it and he received his sight back, it says nothing of tongues. It’s an experience between you and God. He will give you the assurance.

When I received the Holy Ghost I heard a sound of a wind in my room. Each of us will have our own experience with God and it is sovereign. God will do it as he wills, but when you go to baptism, expect to receive the Spirit because its a promise to you.

Have You Received the Holy Spirit?

He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. Acts 19:2-6

Here we see Paul giving the formula for receiving the Holy Ghost. First he comes across people believing the message of John that Jesus was the one to come. However, they did not know anything else besides that. It was not enough for them to merely believe in Jesus. They had to receive the Holy Ghost. They had to be born again to experience salvation from sin.

In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise. Ephesians 1:13

Sure, you can grow up in a Christian home. You can have parents that drag you to church kicking and screaming every week. You can look the part or you can be very bitter against church, but once you come in to the body this way you will be different. You won’t care about anything but loving Jesus because he first loved you and gave himself as a ransom for you so that you would have eternal life in his presence. You may even still believe in Jesus yet still walking in sin. Or you may be a believer, but have not went on to receive this. Paul asks you, “have you received the Holy Ghost since you believed?”

These men heard these and had never heard of receiving the Holy Spirit. So Paul then asked them unto what they were baptized. They were baptized, but by John the Baptist. He then explained that was not sufficient. They needed to be baptized in water the name of the Lord Jesus and then they would receive the Holy Ghost.

When the Holy Spirit came upon them they spoke in other languages and prophesied. This is the same formula that Peter gave on the day of Pentecost. Repent, believe on Christ Jesus, be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Speaking in tongues is not the evidence of the Holy Ghost, you may or may not do so. However when you receive it you will know that you have received it because it is an experience with God. We will cover this later, but every instance that someone received the Holy Spirit in the book of Acts they knew it happened even to where the people around them knew. It’s a sovereign work of God not something you can work yourself into. Just go in obedience to water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ and you will receive the Holy Ghost, it’s a promise. Expect to receive the Spirit when you rise out of the water.

If you should desire to receive the Holy Ghost please let me know at demjas@gmail.com and I will make sure to find someone who can give you instructions. God bless you richly

Acts 2:38 Evangelism

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38

What we need is more Acts 2:38 evangelism? This is something that the Lord has really been pressing on my heart lately. I have gotten so busy defending the various doctrines that I have pushed to the back burner the central work of the church and its great commission to “go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.” A church without a clear purpose of evangelism will become stagnant because they are not participating in what Jesus has called them to. They are many participating in evangelism, but not doing so with the proper formula that was given to us by the apostles.

After the apostle Peter’s cutting sermon on the day of Pentecost this is what happened;

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Acts 2:37

They were convicted in their hearts and desired to respond to the preaching of Peter. Peter’s response is so stunning. He did not ask them to pray the sinners prayer with him and “ask Jesus into their heart.” He did not put them through new believers classes. These are post-biblical construction. Peter told them if you desire to be saved then first, repent. Turn away from your wicked ways, leave them behind, change your mind from wickedness to the truth of the Lord Jesus. Next, he said to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. This seems very strange to us. Clearly we understand that remission of sins comes through the blood of Jesus Christ. Colossians 1:14 says, “In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins.” Here we see that through baptism “in the name of Jesus Christ” we receive the remission of sins. True baptism acted upon by genuine repentance in the heart and then done in faith (“by grace are ye saved through faith” Ephesians 2:8) applies the blood to your heart. And the promise if you walk in this faith is to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Three steps to be saved according to Peter on the day of Pentecost;

1. Repentance
2. Water baptism by immersion in the name of Jesus Christ
3. Receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost

This corresponds perfectly to what Jesus told Nicodemus. “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” John 3:5 We must be “born of water” and then “born of the Spirit.” “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost.” Titus 3:5 This is a verse that corresponds to what Jesus said “the washing of regeneration” is water baptism and the “renewing of the Holy Ghost” is Spirit baptism.

In the English Standard Version notice what Peter writes, “Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” 1 Peter 3:21 Peter says that baptism corresponds to the salvation of the family of Noah through water. He says, “baptism now saves you.” This does not throw away the scripture that shows us we are saved by grace through faith. It’s nothing we can do that saves us. It is a gift from God period. As part of the process God commands us to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. If we disobey this command we do not have faith and thus Peter writes, “baptism now saves you.”

He writes that it is not as a removal of dirt from the body. Its not a physical bath you are taking but an appeal to God for a good conscience. As you have repented and you are responding in faith to the word of God to enter the waters of baptism you are asking God to give you a good conscience. Keep in mind it is not baptism that gives you a good conscience. Baptism is an act of faith that appeals to God for a good conscience. Only the blood of Christ gives you a good conscience. “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?” Hebrews 9:14 The blood of Christ purges your conscience from dead works not baptism.

This is the simple formula for salvation. Most evangelicals simply state that salvation is to come by grace through faith as a gift from God. This is true, but you are missing the steps that the apostles taught the others to take. Paul’s first response to those who had not received the Holy Spirit (the new birth) yet was to baptize them in the name of the Lord Jesus. (Acts 19:2-6) It’s important for our actions to correspond to the actions of the apostles. What they were doing was not simply for another age, but it was the gold standard for all of us to walk in.

Are You Righteous?

2 Corinthians 5:1
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

This is the basis for the song, “He Became Me.” He became me, that I might become Him by grace. He became sin that I might become the righteousness of God. He not only became sin, but he became my sin. That is, he took my sin upon himself on the cross. Isaiah 53:5 says, “But he was wounded for our transgressions.” He took upon himself the punishment that I deserved for my sin. He was my substitute.

Jesus Christ knew no sin. Now, it is not that Jesus did not know what sin was or that he did not have knowledge of it for he lived around it and amongst it his whole life. Hebrews 12:3 says that “he endured such contradiction of sinners against himself.” Jesus knew no sin in the sense that he was sinless, but not only was he sinless he was perfectly righteous in his life. He was not only our substitute for our sins, but since he was perfectly righteous we are GIVEN his righteousness. We do not become righteous through godly living as though we attain it in our life and lifestyle. We are MADE the righteousness of God. That is God MAKES us righteous. Our sin was given to Jesus Christ to bear our punishment on the cross and in turn his righteousness is given to us by God the Father. It is a free gift given to us.

Where is this gift given? It is given “in him” that is in Jesus Christ. What rest this brings! We don’t have to become a good person through our own effort. The righteousness that God requires in order to enter into heaven is given to us as a free gift because Jesus Christ is our substitute. When God looks at us he sees the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ. Micah 7:9 says, “…thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.” Psalm 103:12, “As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.”

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 5:1

We are justified by faith not by the works of the law. We cannot rely on what we have done, its what He has done. He has justified us by faith. He has made us just. What does it mean to be just? It means that your name is cleared, you have not broken the law you are accused of. This free gift of righteousness that allows us into heaven is obtained through faith. Through the Lord Jesus Christ we are concluded to be faultless and sinless before God. We are without spot or wrinkle. Why? Because of the perfection of Jesus Christ.

So many times the devil seeks to put something in our mind that we have to attain to. It is so easy in this message to try to look the part, sound the part, but we do not need to please men or make them think we are good. That is seeking to attain self-righteousness. Self-righteousness is filthy and dirty before God. He has already given us the righteousness of Jesus Christ.

What more do you need? What can you add to His righteousness? Just accept it and fight against the lies of the enemy where he seeks to take away the peace that you have with God by injecting your works into the equation.

Logos: Father or Son?

I’m hoping that this makes a little more sense to those of you who were questioning some things that I wrote previously. It explains the process I went through.

I’ve been asked several times to further explain myself in regards to what I was teaching on “let us make man in our own image.” I apologize for the mis-undertanding I have caused. This happened because I have went through a change of thought and mind that others have not witnessed. My writings online are typically for the purpose of causing those outside of the message to think about their beliefs and present teaches based on scripture alone.  However, many more message believers are beginning to read what I have written so I want to change my approach at this point in time.

There are several different understandings of the beginning of the Son, whether he had a pre-incarnate existence or had his beginning in the womb of Mary. However, since how I came to my understanding should genuinely be questioned I wanted to submit the quotes and explanation below. This is not intended to tie all the loose ends together. This is the journey of understanding the Lord led me through.

Most who are questioning already believe that there is one God and His Son, the Lord Jesus. Those who believe the Trinity or Jesus-only may be thrown for a loop by this, so approach this with that.

I went through a process in understanding the Logos and the beginning of the Son of God. When I first began my walk in the message I viewed the Son as having a pre-incarnate state. However, there were several quotes that I began reading that made me uneasy with that understanding. Believe me, I wanted to keep things simple, but as I read these quotes my conscience began to be pricked that for some reason I was not seeing the whole picture. Basically, what began to get me thinking was the places you see below where bro. Branham states that the Logos is the Father, the Logos was the anointing upon Jesus and also that Melchisedec is the Father not the Son. How could I reconcile this with the fact that bro. Branham stated that the Logos that went out from God was the Son of God? I will submit to you the quotes below.

Hebrews Chapter 1 57-0821 P:48

Now, here’s what happened. Oh… Excuse me; I–I–I just get on this… This just gets me right where I love it. See? The Logos, and this great Fountain; this great Fountain of Spirit which had no beginning or no end, this great Spirit begin to form in the creation; and the Logos that went out from It was the Son of God. It was the only visible form that this Spirit had. And It was a theophany, which means a body, and the body was like a man.Moses saw It when It passed through the–by–by the rock. And he looked at It, said, “It looked like the hind part of a man.” It’s the same type of body that we receive when we die here, “If this earthly tabernacle be dissolved, we have one already waiting.” That was it. And that was the Theophany which was the Son of God. That Son, that Logos became flesh because we were put in flesh. And the Theophany, theLogos, became flesh here among us, and It was nothing else but the dwelling place; for that entire Fountain dwelt in Him. Oh, do you see it? There it is. That was the One that in…

HEBREWS_CHAPTER_FOUR  JEFF_IN 09-01-57 Evening

43 Jesus said, “Hear ye, O Israel, I’m the Lord your God,” one God, not three gods. In Africa they baptize once for the Father, and once for the Son, and once for the Holy Ghost. And then a poor Jew comes around and say, “Which one of them is your God?” Which one is, the Father, Son, or Holy Ghost?” They’re all three One. The Bible said they were One. Jesus was a house that God lived in; the Bible said that–that, I Timothy 3:16, “Without controversy (That’s argument.) great is the mystery of godliness. For God was manifested in the flesh, seen of angels, received on, and preached, believed on, and received up into glory.” God was. The Bible said, “His Name shall be called Emmanuel,” which is by interpretation, “God with us.” The Bible said that Jesus, in Him dwelt the Fullness of the Godhead bodily. As we had it the other night, God in the beginning was Spirit. And then from God went out the Logos, or the Theophany which was a form of a man called the Son of God (prefigured). He came in earth in a body of flesh, even before He came in Jesus Christ. Now, swallow that one once, brother. I’ll prove it to you. When–when Moses saw Him, he said, “Let me see Your form, Lord.” And God hid him in a rock.

CHRIST_REVEALED_IN_HIS_OWN_WORD  JEFF_IN 08-22-65 Morning

37 To misinterpret Jesus in the form of God in a man you would make Him–you would make Him one god out of three. To misinterpret Jesus Christ being the Word, you’d make Him one god out of three, or you’d make Him the second person in a godhead. And to do that, you’d mess the whole Scripture up. You’d never get nowhere. So It must not be misinterpreted. And if you say that a certain thing, you put an interpretation on It, and you apply It to another time or It’s been applied to another time, you also make an incorrect interpreting. If anybody misinterpret Jesus Christ in the Bible of not being God Himself, make Him the second person, or, one god out of three, this would upset every Word in the entire Bible. It would break the first commandment, “Thou shalt not have any other god before Me.” All right. It would make the whole Christian race a bunch of pagan worshippers worshipping three different gods. See what kind of a Bible you’d have? Then it’d make us what the Jews say we are: said, “Which one of them gods is your god?” See? So you see, you can’t–you mustn’t misinterpret the Bible, for Jesus Himself is the Interpretation of the Bible when He’s made manifest in the age that the part of His Body is being made manifest. If it’s a hand age, it must be a hand; it can’t be a head age. If it’s a voice age, well then, it can’t be a foot age. See? And now, we’re at the eye age.

The Logos was the Son and the Logos is the only visible form of the invisible God. There are not two logos or three logos, just one. Then we find out that the Logos was called the prefigured Son of God. Also, to misinterpret the Son of God being the Logos would make him one God of out three. Of course, he said the Logos was the Son, but here he says there is a right way to interpret it and a wrong way to interpret it. Again, he says the Logos was the Son “prefigured.” Here is the definition of prefigured.

pre·fig·ured, pre·fig·ur·ing, pre·fig·ures

1. To suggest, indicate, or represent by an antecedent form or model; presage or foreshadow: The paintings of Paul Cézanne prefigured the rise of cubism in the early 20th century.

2. To imagine or picture to oneself in advance.

To follow that example of cubism; it did not exist at the time of Paul Cezanne, but his work spoke of it before hand and was the precursor to it. The Son of God had not been born at the time of Melchisidec or the time of the creation of the world, but the logos spoke of the Son of God before his birth. How can I saw the Son wasn’t born yet? Please withhold judgment for now and wait until you read a few of the quotes below. The logos was the antecedant form or the model that foreshadowed the Son of God that was brought forth in the fulness of time, made of a woman, made under the law. (Gal. 4:4) God appointed the ages in the Son (Heb 1:2), God created the world by Jesus Christ (Eph. 3:9) and he is firstborn of all creation, the first born from the dead, he is before all things and by him all things consist. He was glorified before the world began. We also were glorified before the world began. (Rom 8:30, Heb. 4:3, John 17:22) We existed with him in the mind of God. The Lamb was slain in the mind of God before the world began. We were chosen in Christ before the world began.

THE_SEED_SHALL_NOT_BE_HEIR_WITH_THE_SHUCK  LA_CA 04-29-65 Breakfast

28 ‘Cause all this was in the Logos: the whole Word of God, the whole Bible, for every age. And as the Logos begin to breathe upon the earth, there come marine life, and building up to bird life, on up to animal life. And finally there come something in the representation, or looked like the thing that was brewing–brooding over it: God, a man in the very image of God. That man fell, like the seed has to fall. And then God begin to brood over that after the fall. He brought up a–a Enoch; He brought up Elijah; He brought up a Moses; He brought up prophet after prophet, trying to restore that image again. And, finally, upon the earth came the genuine Image of God Himself again, which was God, the Logos made flesh and dwelt among us. Now, that same Logos has a part; He’s got a Bride, and the same Logos, this Word that cannot be tampered with, is brooding over the churches today, trying to bring back the Word to Its full manifestation. Which the–the prophets was carriers to that Seed, and the church denominations has been carriers to the Seed now. Now, notice quickly, but like the shuck hugs, holds in the Seed now, then it leaves her… Jesus was God. He was. His Father was the great Logos Itself. And He could not pour It all in Moses, for he was a prophet.

The Son of God, who was born of a woman in the fullness of time, under the Law, is not one for one with the logos. The logos went forth in the beginning of time and that logos was the revelation of the Father and it was in fact the Father, but it foreshadowed or prefigured the Son of God. The Logos was in, upon and anointed Jesus.

QUESTIONS_AND_ANSWERS_2  JEFF_IN 08-23-64 Evening

49 So I don’t want to call myself anything but your brother. I am your brother, and you just regard me as Brother Bill, or Brother Branham, or whatever you want to do about that. That–that’s fine. That’s–that’s any… What you believe, keep that to yourself. You see? And now, what was that other question? I get so wound up in these, I forget what the things were. One of them was, “Was I the Son of man?” and… Here it is I believe. “… the Son of man or was the Pillar of Fire the Son of man?” No. The Pillar of Fire is the Anointing. The Pillar of Fire… Now, this may go a little deep unless it’s some of you theologians, Dr. Vayle, probably Brother here, and some of these ministers here from Arkansas, and the–my good friends around, they’d probably know. Now, that Pillar of Fire is the Logos that went out of God, the Logos, which is actually the attribute of the Fullness of God. When God become into a form to where It could be seen, It was the anointing of the great Spirit that went forth, Its condescending, coming down, God, the Father, the Logos that was up over Israel, that…

QUESTIONS_AND_ANSWERS_2  JEFF_IN 08-23-64 Evening

50 He was holy, could not bear sin. There had to be a blood offering right in Eden. Then that Logos become flesh and dwelt among us; and where this Logos dwelt in a human body, which was the Sacrifice… When man was made in the image of God… And then God came down in the image of man to redeem man; that brought man and God together. Heavens and earth hugged and kissed each other; God and man embraced each other as Fatherhood and Sonship when the Logos became flesh and dwelled among us. Jesus said, “I came from God, and I go to God.” Is that right? After His death, burial, resurrection, and ascension, when the body was taken up to set at the right hand of God… Now, I don’t mean God’s got a right hand; God’s a spirit. But at the “right hand” means “in power and authority of God.” That in that Name everything in heaven is named after It and subject to It. Everything in earth is named after It and subject to It, a Name above all names, Jesus Christ. Now, this Logos that was in Him, which was the Spirit of God, the Anointing, through the sanctifying grace of the Blood, brought many sons to God, which is anointed with this same Logos.

QUESTIONS_AND_ANSWERS_2  JEFF_IN 08-23-64 Evening

51 Now, on the day of Pentecost It come down, that Pillar of Fire, and broke apart like that, and tongues of fire set upon each of them, not their tongues, but tongues of fire set upon each of them, a elected, selected group, identified by this Pillar of Fire, showing that God had separated Himself into man. Do you get it? God, the Logos, separating Himself into men; God, not in one person, He’s in His Church universal. That’s the reason Jesus said, “The works that I do shall you also, more…” Now, I know the King James says, “greater,” but the right translation there is “more than this shall you do.” God was bottled and confined in one Man, Jesus Christ. But now He’s bottled and confined in the whole universal Church of the living God. Right now, while God is here speaking with us in our hearts, He’s in Africa; He’s in Asia; He’s in Europe; He’s in England. Wherever believers are gathered together, there He is in the midst of them. Now, after His death, burial, and ascension, and the coming of the Holy Ghost, Paul on his road down–which was Saul–to Damascus, he was struck down by a Pillar of Fire, the Logos. And that Jew would’ve never called that Pillar of Fire, “Lord,” unless he knew It was the same Logos that his people followed through the wilderness. See? Now, that was not the Son of man; that was the Logos.

QUESTIONS_AND_ANSWERS_2  JEFF_IN 08-23-64 Evening

52 Now, we say this with reverence, and love, and respect. See? As Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever, and also that in the last days, as it was before Lot’s time, or in Lot’s time in Sodom, so shall it be in the day that the Son of man reveals Himself again, revealing Himself. Now, in this last day the Logos that was upon Jesus–which He has become from that back to the Pillar of Fire again and has descended down on the earth to (I was going to say something, but I watch the tape. They wouldn’t believe that if you told them. It wouldn’t make any difference. They… People wouldn’t believe it, but I’ll omit that)–but has come down for, like an investigating judgment goes on. And now, this great Pillar of Fire that’s absolutely identified even by scientific cameras, that’s here on the earth today. There’s the picture of It hanging there. I believe it’s still there, isn’t that right? Is it there? Scientifically proven by the best we got. George J. Lacy, the head of the FBI for fingerprint and documents, said, “I called it psychology myself, Reverend Branham, but,” said, “the light struck the lens. I put it under ultra ray lights and had an examination here for four or five days. And the light struck the lens. And this lens won’t take psychology.” Now, that’s identified.

Here we see the Logos spoken of as being the following;

1. God the Father

2. in Jesus

3. the Spirit of God

4. the Anointing

5. upon Jesus

6. not the Son of man

QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_  JEFF.IN  COD  WEDNESDAY_  53-0729

^18-43 He got all those things together, and made…?… made all the other things, all the animal life, the birds, the bees, the monkeys, and whatever it was, put them all here on earth. And then He asked this question now. “ Let us ( Who ? Father and Son ) make man in Our own image.”

Now, if a man was made something like that little sacred Light yonder, or something like that, It could not be seen (which is a spiritual Being). He manifested or unfolded Himself a little more to make a trinity of Himself by Father , Son , and Holy Spirit. And here was God, unfolded Himself now, down into “ let us make man (which was His son , an offspring from Him) man in Our own image (He was a supernatural being.), and let him have dominion over the cattles of the field, and so forth.”

Now, the man led the man–led the–the cattle and everything, just like the Holy Spirit leads a real true believer today. The Voice of God out there… The voice of man, rather, would speak and say… call the cattle this way, call the sheep over to this pasture, call the fishes to this water. See, he had dominion; everything obeyed him.

In 1953 he states that the “let us” was Father and Son.

A_SUPER_SIGN  JEFF_IN 12-27-59 Morning

26 That’s a sign, that every unrepented sinner will perish in the judgment, that the righteous shall be saved by the mercy of God. He gave another sign at the burning bush. What was it when He caught His runaway prophet? “I have heard the cries of My people, and I’ve remembered My covenant”? He gave another sign there, that He was a covenant-keeping God, that He remembered everything that He said, every promise that He made. He gave a sign at the burning bush, “And I’ve come down to deliver them.” Watch God in His ways of work. When He created the heavens and earth, He called the Angels together, and He said, “Let us.” Every place in the Scripture where He did anything mostly, “Not Me, but My Father.” But when it come to the plan of redemption, He came alone; nobody was with Him. He was the only One that could come. An Angel couldn’t do it. Another man called His son, couldn’t do it. One called something else, a holy virgin, or a holy mother, or–or some saint, couldn’t do it. God had to come.

Here in 1959 he said he gathered his angels together and said, “let us…”

CHRIST_REVEALED_IN_HIS_OWN_WORD  JEFF_IN 08-22-65 Morning

70 And He ever lives to make His Word live what It said It would do for that age. He is alive. He was alive in the Old Testament, manifested. I just want to–to let you see a little something here if you can stand it. Watch. When Jesus was manifested in the Old Testament as we believe it… Now, you preachers out there, you can argue with it, do whatever you want to, but I’m talking from my–what I think. See? When Jesus was manifested in the Old Testament in a theophany, in the Person of Melchisedec, not a priesthood, but the Person, the Man… See? For this Man had yet not been born, but He was in a theophany so He had no father, no mother. He was God Himself. He was manifested in the form of a Man called King of Salem, which is King of Peace and King of Righteousness. See? He was Melchisedec. He had neither father nor mother, beginning of days of ending of life. See? It was Jesus in a theophany in the form of a man. Could you go that? All right.

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²³ Now, now if you’ll notice as we read the next verse. See? “First, being by interpretation, King of righteousness.” That’s not where I want to do. The–the 3rd verse, “Nor end of life.”

		… but made like unto the Son of God;…

Now, He was not the Son of God, for, if He was the Son, He had a beginning. And this Man had no beginning. If He was the Son, he had to have both father and mother. “And this Man had neither father nor mother. But He was made like unto the Son of God.”

		… abideth a priest continually.

FUTURE_HOME_OF_THE_BRIDE  JEFF_IN 08-02-64

76 Just exactly like it did on there, upon the earth. Jesus was part of that earth that the Holy Ghost descended upon (Is that right?) and remained upon Him forever. It never can leave Him, It’s always there (He and God are one.), always has to remain. And so John saw the holy City, the New Jerusalem descending like a comet or a–a dove, coming down out of heaven and settling upon a redeemed entire earth. To do what? To claim every attribute that He made the earth for; every man that was represented in the eternity and every woman is redeemed then. She’s been scoured and burned by fire; Jesus in His fiery temptations in the wilderness for forty days… After that, notice, it was ready for His ministry then. Think of it, the Holy Ghost descending upon earth, Jesus, and that holy Blood. Now watch. I hope I don’t go too deep for you. See? The holy Blood that was created by God, the Blood, the Life, the Creation of God: Jesus was the beginning of the creation of God. Oh, my. You see it? God made in creation… He was Spirit. The Bible said He’s the beginning of the creation of God. How did He begin? In the wombs of a woman, which is what? The woman is… not like… How them blind people can’t see the serpent’s seed right here. See? Eve was put here on the earth, and before Satan ever touched her or anything else, God said to them, “Multiply and replenish the earth.” It’s right.

Here he states that 1. Jesus had not yet been born and 2. that he had his beginning in the womb of a virgin. So, to find the balance, the theophany there is Jesus yes, but before he was brought forth in birth as a separate person from God. Melchisidec was the logos that went out from God. The manifestation of God himself. That manifestation in fact is Jesus, but not Jesus as a separate person from God himself. It was simply the theophany of God, the logos. It was Jesus pre-figured or you could say it was Jesus proleptically. Now, this can be somewhat confusing, it was for me for years, but another way to say it is that it was the life of the Son that was in the Logos, but the Logos itself was the Father’s manifestation and expression. The only visible form the Father had. That life of the Son that was in the Logos later had a beginning and was born through a virgin.

Proleptical means the anachronistic representation of something as existing before its proper or historical time, as in the precolonial United States.

The logos was the going forth of the Son of God, but not in the sense that it was a separate person from God or a pre-incarnate Son. It was the self-manifestation and revelation of God. It was the only way the invisible Spirit could be seen to the spiritual eye. It was God limiting himself to a form in which he could be revealed to mankind. Again, the life of the Son was in the Logos. He was prefigured by the various appearances of God in the form of the logos.

To put it all together;

1. the Logos was the Son – the only visible form the invisible Spirit had

2. the Logos prefigures the Son

3. the Logos is the Father’s self-revelation and visible expression – it is the Father

4. the Logos was upon, in and anointed the Son

5. Melchisedec was Jesus in theophany in a man even though Jesus had not yet been born

6. When did Jesus begin? In the womb of a virgin.

7. the Logos was not the Son of man

I can’t expect anyone to simply take what I said as being the final authority. Take it back to the bible, take it back to the message, pray over it and come to your own understanding. It’s important for all of us to be convinced in our own hearts.

Why Did God Say “Let Us”?

Here is a question from a brother in Christ.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Why did God speak in the plural when He made man?

A_SUPER_SIGN  JEFF_IN 12-27-59 Morning

26 That’s a sign, that every unrepented sinner will perish in the judgment, that the righteous shall be saved by the mercy of God. He gave another sign at the burning bush. What was it when He caught His runaway prophet? “I have heard the cries of My people, and I’ve remembered My covenant”? He gave another sign there, that He was a covenant-keeping God, that He remembered everything that He said, every promise that He made. He gave a sign at the burning bush, “And I’ve come down to deliver them.” Watch God in His ways of work. When He created the heavens and earth, He called the Angels together, and He said, “Let us.” Every place in the Scripture where He did anything mostly, “Not Me, but My Father.” But when it come to the plan of redemption, He came alone; nobody was with Him. He was the only One that could come. An Angel couldn’t do it. Another man called His son, couldn’t do it. One called something else, a holy virgin, or a holy mother, or–or some saint, couldn’t do it. God had to come.

He was speaking to angels because he desired their participation in his work. First of all notice that after God says, “let us” first and then the scripture says in verse 27, “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” 
See that Moses used the SINGULAR personal pronouns “HIS own image” “image of God created HE him, male and female created HE them.” 
So the plural pronoun by definition means he was speaking to someone who WAS NOT HIMSELF, ie not God. God is ONE person as evidenced by the THOUSANDS of scriptures that use singular personal pronouns. In this verse it clearly shows that he was speaking to someone OTHER than himself. 
A great example of this is in Isaiah 6. 

6Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:

7And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

8Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

God is speaking to the angelic beings surrounding his throne. He says whom shall I (singular pronoun pointing to ONE PERSON) send and whom shall go for US (the singular PERSON was speaking to the angelic beings who were NOT him).

Doctrine of Christ Continued

This is another post from the discussion board on Facebook. I’m posting this because it is something that I feel is very overlooked, but also very important for us to grasp.

Francis wrote, “Tell me who was speaking to Moses from the midst of the Burning bush or at other times from the shekinah Glory, was it Jesus or God the Father? Or was it Elohim or the self existent one? Or could it be Melkizidek? Do you know or can you hazard a guess?”

It was the invisible, eternal God speaking, Yahweh or the self-existing one who reveals himself speaking to Moses, but scripture tells us, 
“2And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.”

It was Yahweh speaking through the angel of the Yahweh or the angel of his presence. That was a pre-figuration of the Lord Jesus.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

This is speaking of the man that was born to Mary. Remember, they are gods to whom the word of God comes to. God told Moses, “you be God and let Aaron be your prophet.” God’s representatives are called God how much more is the perfect Son of God, who is the perfect manifestation of God. A Hebrew translation renders everlasting father as father of the age to come. Also, it is spoken of David that he was a father unto such and such people. That is, he is a provider. Jesus is the founder and the maker of the age to come. God created all things through and by his Son, his perfect image and manifestation.

When you look at Jesus you see God, also remember that the Jehovah of the OT is the Jesus of the NT. So the name of God has changed to the Lord Jesus Christ.

It’s important to have a scriptural balance to see both sides of the equation and understand the separateness of the Son and the Father as well as their unity. Both sides need to be there. What you are saying is correct, but it should be tempered with the other side of the coin, that there is a Father who is the invisible and eternal God and there is a Son who is the visible man who manifested God. The man has a relationship with God and because the fulness of God is in him he is God.

Jesus Christ is God, but that statement is understood differently than the Jesus-only, actually the majority of message believers are Jesus-only and the Trinitarian ideal. The truth of “Jesus Christ is God” is not in either of those ideas. It’s right there in the bible. 
Jesus is the I AM, how so? God was in him, the Son. The Son is not the Godhead, but the Godhead is in the Son. 

GODS_GIFTS_ALWAYS_FIND_THEIR_PLACES JEFF_IN 12-22-63 

37 They said, “He couldn’t be Deity and die.” The man, the body was not Deity, but Deity was in the body.

How is Jesus God? He that has seen me has seen the Father…the Father dwelleth in me, He doeth the works… Jesus is God because God was in him in fulness manifesting himself without any hindrance. God was perfectly manifested through his Son so that when you see the Son you say, there is my Lord and my God. However, it takes a revelation to say that without a Jesus-only or a Trinitarian understanding. 

The man is not the I AM, but the eternal Spirit dwelling in the man in fullness is the I AM. The Son began in the womb of Mary, the Godhead that entered him at the water baptism had no beginning. 

As far as the Father being a dispensation is there a scripture for that? 

God bless,
Jason

Doctrine of Christ

This is something that I wrote in response to a brother in a message discussion board on Facebook.

May the Lord bless each of you in your study of the truth. I appreciate each of your hearts and your love for the truth. I enjoy this sharpening and fellowship around the word of God. 

I do not think that God erased the memory of Jesus neither did God divest himself of his eternal attributes. Scripture does not teach these ideas. That is more like the movie Men in Black than the bible.  j/k Jesus came forth in the fulness of time, he began in the womb of Mary. He did not pre-exist his birth through the virgin. The angel Gabriel told Mary “the Holy Ghost shall overshadow you…THEREFORE that holy thing that shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” Therefore means based upon this fact or because of this. Because of the Holy Spirit overshadowing Mary is Jesus the Son of God, not because he pre-existed, but because the Spirit of God created him in the womb of a virgin. 

God cannot divest himself of something that he is intrinsicly in himself. God cannot lose the attributes of omniscience, omnipresence or omnipotence. He says, I AM WHO I AM, He does not change. If he takes away some of his attributes to become a man he has then changed. God did not take away any attributes from himself. He simply created a perfect man, with divine life. He was not the eternal God in himself, he was a man. He had a soul, spirit and body separate and distinct from God. He was not a dual personality, at once communicating with the God part as a man and the man part communicting with the God part, etc. Jesus was a man that received visions and commandments from God, he responsed in obedience to do the will of God, “lo I am come in the volume of the book it is written of me, to do thy will o God.” He was a perfect man separate and distinct from the invisible, eternal God who is Spirit. God is a Spirit and not a man. Jesus is a man and he was the man that God created in order to manifest himself perfectly through. God was in Christ. It does not say, God WAS Christ. His Father is the invisible God and Jesus is the man who manifested this invisible God. He was the perfect representation and manifestation of God. You could say he had a dual nature, but the two natures were not fused into one because Jesus always referred to the Father as being greater than he was and that it was the Father doing the works through him. “How GodanointedJesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.”Acts 10:38 They were separate just as the Holy Spirit is a separate person from you. The only three differences are these. 1. Jesus had the fullness of the Godhead 2. Jesus was created directly by God in a virgins womb. He had no sin 3. He was born to be the perfect manifestation of God. 

Jesus was so perfectly in line with the will of God that when you saw Jesus you were looking at invisible God. It is “I AND my Father are one.” Not “I AM my Father.” There are two there, I (the Son) and the Father and they are one. The Father dwells in the Son doing the works and the works that you see the Son doing its not him it’s the Father dwelling in him. God was in Christ. He that has Christ has BOTH (not one, not three, but two) Father and Son. Br. Branham said Jesus and God are not one like your finger is one.

The Original Sin and the Serpent’s Seed

The doctrine of the original sin and serpent’s seed is one that many scoff at and call false. I want to present first what the doctrine is in basic format and then offer only 7 corollary proofs (though there are more) leading us to the conclusion that it was a sexual sin that caused the fall and not the eating of a literal fruit.

The doctrine of the serpent’s seed is sometimes said to be that Satan had sex with Eve and the result was Cain. However, that is not what the doctrine is. The serpent’s seed is that the serpent who was the wisest beast in the garden tempted Eve to commit adultery with him and have sex for merely the sake of the pleasure it provided. The serpent was an upright creature that was very similar to the man, but not made in God’s image and likeness. He was able to speak and did so with Adam and Eve on a regular basis as is evidenced by the fact that Eve was not surprised to hear the serpent speak. Eve then gave the fruit to Adam and they did “eat”. God has a season and a time for everything under heaven (Ecc. 3:1), including the coming together of Adam and Eve to produce children. Eve had a relationship with the serpent and then went over to Adam and had the same relationship for mere pleasure outside of the purpose and season that God had for them. Though it would not have been a sin for Adam to know his wife, it was a sin in this situation because it was to be done “according to the time of life.” (Genesis 18:10)

Here are the seven proofs.

1. Genesis 3:15 the serpent is said to have a seed. Who was that seed? The context will tell us through the enmity that is shown later between Cain and Abel.
2. Genesis 3:7 Instead of wiping their mouth or covering their mouth they covered their nakedness. They covered the organ that they sinned with, their reproductive organs. If eating fruit makes people realize they are naked we better start passing the apples again.
3. Genesis 4:8 There was enmity between Cain, the serpent’s seed, and Abel, the woman’s seed.
4. Cain’s works and the works of his offspring were evil because his nature was that of a mixed seed. Hybridization brings death.
5. Eve was the mother of all living. Adam is not the father of all living. Genesis 3:20
6. Cain is never mentioned in Adam’s genealogy. Genesis 5:1-3
7. God cursed the organ that the woman sinned with, the reproductive organ not her teeth. Genesis 3:16

In the future we will dig deeper into this doctrine and point out exactly what the terms “eat” “tree of life” “tree of knowledge” “midst of the garden”, etc. mean in the context of the original sin.

How Can You Be An Atheist?

I filmed this video on the summit of Mount Victoria in Colorado. Since posting it on youtube I’ve been called names and had all kinds of arguments from atheists. I’d love for you to go to the link and respond in love to them to show them that Christ is real. Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL_QhQwP-ko
I also have posted the video here on this page.

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